[Ivan gives Roy a somewhat jaded look at his reaction.]

I don't know about that. It's much more natural to enjoy the pain of others than it is to enjoy receiving pain.

[He reaches over, grabbing Roy by the hair again and pulling him upwards so he can whisper into his ear.]

You know how, sometimes, you'll see somebody you hate get hurt? That satisfied feeling you get inside knowing they got what they deserved--it's the same thing.

[Almost gleefully, he leans back and says one last thing.] If anything, you're much worse!